1 00:00:00,594 --> 00:00:05,439 And for my task of cognitive walkthrough, 2 00:00:06,014 --> 00:00:10,279 I am going to try to show you how to draw a hexagon in Paint. 3 00:00:11,179 --> 00:00:13,144 Or just to draw anything in Paint. 4 00:00:13,596 --> 00:00:18,801 So, the point of the cognitive walkthrough is to go though my mind process, 5 00:00:19,343 --> 00:00:22,178 so if you were the researcher I would be trying to tell you, 6 00:00:22,806 --> 00:00:29,449 "Well, I really don't see where the Paint icon is, or what I would use to draw it with." 7 00:00:29,945 --> 00:00:35,149 But I'm assuming it's on this computer, so I'm going to try to go find it through the applications. 8 00:00:35,722 --> 00:00:42,689 This is the general thing, Finder, that people use to navigate through their Mac OS, 9 00:00:43,170 --> 00:00:50,561 so I'm going to go to the applications and see if there's anything that seems to do the job that I want. 10 00:00:51,131 --> 00:00:53,313 And Paintbrush is here. 11 00:00:53,734 --> 00:01:00,121 I personally know that I've used Paintbrush before, and it's basically the Paint equivalent, but, for Macs. 12 00:01:00,921 --> 00:01:02,807 So I'm going to click that icon here. 13 00:01:03,268 --> 00:01:08,353 Now as soon as I click this, I see that this message window pops up. 14 00:01:08,947 --> 00:01:11,328 I don't really know why it's here, and it's kind of annoying, 15 00:01:11,867 --> 00:01:15,706 and I wish it just gave me the option to just go draw right away. 16 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:22,807 But, it asks me to specify a width and a height. And I don't know what "pixels" necessarily mean, 17 00:01:23,281 --> 00:01:26,593 but I'm just going to click OK and see how it goes. 18 00:01:28,283 --> 00:01:33,317 So my aim is just to draw a hexagon, 19 00:01:33,841 --> 00:01:36,754 and I first look at this toolbox here, 20 00:01:37,424 --> 00:01:45,347 and see that there's a paintbrush, eraser, whatever that is, "Selection", it says, cans, and things like that. 21 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:50,588 I am going to try to use "Shapes" to draw... 22 00:01:52,093 --> 00:01:56,725 It doesn't really give me any other other options, and it gave me a square by default. 23 00:01:57,326 --> 00:01:59,438 I'm going to try to undo this by using Control-Z. 24 00:02:00,087 --> 00:02:01,305 That happened to work. 25 00:02:02,091 --> 00:02:09,634 Instead I guess I'm going to choose this line icon, because a hexagon's made out of lines I suppose, and begin to draw. 26 00:02:11,584 --> 00:02:14,251 Oh, that's not what I expected, it's a little bit weird looking. 27 00:02:15,019 --> 00:02:16,656 Well, here I go. 28 00:02:17,816 --> 00:02:24,834 I wish there was actually a tool that could be used to do this, or a way that I could make all my lines even. 29 00:02:25,467 --> 00:02:30,281 But here, I drew a hexagon, but I actually wanted it to be red, 30 00:02:31,044 --> 00:02:34,816 so I'm going to try to fill it in using this paint bucket here, 31 00:02:35,954 --> 00:02:39,435 choosing a color, this looks like a red, and 32 00:02:40,658 --> 00:02:42,991 that's my little cognitive walkthrough. 33 00:02:43,378 --> 00:02:47,699 I don't know if you saw the point of doing it, and I think I was a little bit verbose in saying it, 34 00:02:48,195 --> 00:02:51,186 even though it seemed kind of silly, but, I think, 35 00:02:51,938 --> 00:02:59,043 it's not helpful at all if you knew what you were doing, but, I guess I wasn't completely confused on this specific task. 36 00:02:59,573 --> 00:03:01,515 But if you were working with something that was new, 37 00:03:02,031 --> 00:03:02,889 OK. 38 00:03:03,419 --> 00:03:09,757 and, if you were confused, I think that this kind of would help. So, I am going to exit out of this dialog 39 00:03:12,176 --> 00:03:16,893 and ask you to find me the population of Zimbabwe. 40 00:03:17,901 --> 00:03:19,078 Of Zimbabwe? 41 00:03:19,584 --> 00:03:20,282 Yes. 42 00:03:21,020 --> 00:03:21,510 OK. 43 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,567 And I'm going to ask you to do it in a cognitive walkthrough style manner, 44 00:03:23,985 --> 00:03:24,524 OK. 45 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:31,171 And I'll just give you feedback on how you do. Don't really worry about it, it's not very difficult. 46 00:03:31,826 --> 00:03:37,846 OK. So, on my Mac, I usually use the application called Google Chrome, 47 00:03:38,502 --> 00:03:42,097 so I see it here, so I'm going to click on it, because I'm used to doing that. 48 00:03:42,586 --> 00:03:51,491 And, for the population of Zimbabwe, I'm just going to just type in "population zimbabwe" in the Google search thing. 49 00:03:52,057 --> 00:03:55,174 Oh, I didn't know that that was how you were supposed to pronounce it. I was wrong. 50 00:03:55,854 --> 00:03:56,981 Oh I don't know. Maybe not. 51 00:03:57,439 --> 00:03:58,721 Oh, no. 52 00:04:02,229 --> 00:04:05,336 This is, it's asking for my email. So I don't, I don't care about that. 53 00:04:05,937 --> 00:04:08,679 I'm going to try to just put in the search engine 54 00:04:09,399 --> 00:04:15,450 what I'm looking for, which is "population" and "zimbabwe". 55 00:04:16,507 --> 00:04:17,803 And then, return. 56 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:24,569 And here it tells me that it's 14.15 million people living in Zimbabwe. 57 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:27,999 So it's right there, I don't even have to click on anything. 58 00:04:28,678 --> 00:04:29,480 That's really convenient. 59 00:04:30,009 --> 00:04:30,845 Yes, it is. 60 00:04:31,293 --> 00:04:39,288 Yes. OK. That was pretty good. You talked out loud through it, and I really liked how you said you were going to use Chrome because that's what you always do, 61 00:04:40,166 --> 00:04:44,053 because I feel like that's something that we can't tell if we just had a video of you, 62 00:04:44,615 --> 00:04:47,819 which is the point of doing this, because we don't know why you chose that over other things, 63 00:04:48,733 --> 00:04:53,038 or why you decided to use the search bar instead of going to google.com, 64 00:04:53,562 --> 00:04:56,637 or just because you said you knew it would work or you've done this before. 65 00:04:57,273 --> 00:04:59,120 So those are all helpful things to know. 66 00:04:59,523 --> 00:05:04,720 I guess, other helpful things to know, if you won't think of this in a normal situation, 67 00:05:05,211 --> 00:05:07,026 you don't have to exaggerate it for me, 68 00:05:07,432 --> 00:05:09,478 but obviously, you're a journalist, like, would you 69 00:05:10,416 --> 00:05:12,255 trust the fact that Google told you that, 70 00:05:12,658 --> 00:05:17,233 or, was that what you would normally do or, do you like the fact that is just shows up right away? 71 00:05:17,819 --> 00:05:22,067 I don't know. You can tell us if you like something, if you don't like something, if you trust something, 72 00:05:23,048 --> 00:05:27,158 or if you think this is too hard to use, too easy to use. 73 00:05:27,473 --> 00:05:32,589 But like I said, if you don't think you'll do that in the first place, don't feel necessarily compelled to do so. 74 00:05:33,244 --> 00:05:35,538 But, yeah. You did a really good job. 75 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,930 Because some people, they just kind of, "I'm clicking this, I'm typing this." 76 00:05:43,869 --> 00:05:46,146 And the answer's that, and I'm like... 77 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:50,880 It's a little weird when you're talking to yourself the entire time, but, 78 00:05:52,178 --> 00:05:53,745 I think that is what you're going to have to do. 79 00:05:54,134 --> 00:06:00,999 So now comes the part where I ask you to do the official experiment, and I'm going to give you eight tasks to do, 80 00:06:01,577 --> 00:06:07,653 and I am going to try to not interfere as much as possible, so I'm going to ask you to look at them, 81 00:06:08,197 --> 00:06:11,624 and then ask me if you have any questions on any of them. 82 00:06:12,084 --> 00:06:18,072 Of course, I don't think you can, you know, necessarily know what this means if you don't do the first thing, 83 00:06:18,682 --> 00:06:28,613 but maybe if anything's unclear, or for example, what does it mean to explain, how much do I need to explain. 84 00:06:29,437 --> 00:06:33,790 So, a caveat I'm going to talk to you about is you need to search for "onions", you 85 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:40,857 can tell us anything that you would normally think, like "I like using this, this is enough, this is not enough, this is enough for normal life." 86 00:06:41,355 --> 00:06:45,754 For the YouTube video, you don't have to watch the whole thing, it's eight minutes long. 87 00:06:47,723 --> 00:06:50,290 But it's just a task for you to go find it. 88 00:06:50,733 --> 00:06:56,567 And, for 8 you can try your best, and if you don't know, you can just say you don't know. 89 00:06:57,201 --> 00:07:02,158 And anything that has to do with the interface, like "This is complicated, why are these things here, these buttons shouldn't be here, 90 00:07:02,783 --> 00:07:04,997 I'm confused." That would all be very helpful. 91 00:07:05,473 --> 00:07:09,427 And, you can explain it as much or as little as you want. 92 00:07:09,766 --> 00:07:14,829 If people don't care, that's actually something that would be interesting to know because you don't want to 93 00:07:15,471 --> 00:07:22,052 have all of these things cluttering up the space for the user interaction model. So, 94 00:07:23,345 --> 00:07:31,339 OK. So, it's asking me to download Tor, the web browser, so I don't know Tor, 95 00:07:31,985 --> 00:07:37,023 and first thing I didn't think that Tor was a web browser, 96 00:07:37,995 --> 00:07:44,442 I thought it was like an indication that I have to go into a web browser to download Tor, which is some kind of other software. 97 00:07:45,259 --> 00:07:49,430 So I've never downloaded a web browser, I think, before. 98 00:07:49,994 --> 00:07:53,420 I think it was always already there, or someone installed it for me. 99 00:07:55,172 --> 00:08:05,144 But here, I see the Google Chrome application on my screen, and that's what I usually use, 100 00:08:05,627 --> 00:08:14,396 so I'm going to type in "tor" in the search engine once I've opened the app to see if I can find it. 101 00:08:15,108 --> 00:08:17,538 So, I'm just going to type, 102 00:08:18,257 --> 00:08:20,615 maybe I should type "download tor" and not just "Tor". 103 00:08:21,291 --> 00:08:24,721 But let's try "tor" first, to know what this is. 104 00:08:25,262 --> 00:08:29,115 OK, it says here, "Tor Browser". 105 00:08:29,666 --> 00:08:35,647 There's, like, the first thing on the page is called the Tor Project, and I wouldn't figure out what that is, 106 00:08:36,090 --> 00:08:42,995 but then it says "Tor Browser" just a little bit underneath, so I get, I put two and two together and I figure this is probably what I have to download. 107 00:08:43,706 --> 00:08:50,476 And there's a direct word on the browser, it says "Download", so I might as well click that. 108 00:08:53,326 --> 00:08:56,044 And it is... 109 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:03,830 There's this big purple icon on the left side of the screen that says "Download Tor Browser", 110 00:09:04,851 --> 00:09:09,052 so I'm going to click on that because it seems like the most obvious thing 111 00:09:10,073 --> 00:09:15,275 there are a couple of other small words on the screen that I'm not going to look at, because this seems like the most obvious thing to do, 112 00:09:16,322 --> 00:09:18,456 because it's big and purple. 113 00:09:19,193 --> 00:09:27,719 So, it says I have two minutes left for it to download. It's kind of a big file, I can tell, so... 114 00:09:29,133 --> 00:09:32,432 I guess, I should just wait. 115 00:09:32,890 --> 00:09:37,600 [Laughter.] Yeah, this part's kind of awkward. 116 00:09:49,347 --> 00:09:52,423 Are you used to things taking this long? 117 00:09:52,773 --> 00:09:54,779 Are you like, slightly upset by that? 118 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,667 Yeah, super upset. But, [Laughter.] 119 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:06,971 once I had to download the entire Adobe thing, so that took a while too. 120 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:04,100 Oh my gosh. 121 00:10:07,413 --> 00:10:09,482 But I was doing other stuff at the same time, so it's okay. 122 00:10:09,918 --> 00:10:14,120 OK. So would you do other stuff at the same time if I wasn't like watching over you? 123 00:10:14,884 --> 00:10:15,549 Yes, I would not be waiting... 124 00:10:16,018 --> 00:10:17,379 OK. What would you typically be doing? 125 00:10:18,259 --> 00:10:22,921 I would open a new, I would say Command-T, open a new page, 126 00:10:23,649 --> 00:10:29,823 You don't need to actually do anything, especially if you feel uncomfortable or if it's identifying. 127 00:10:29,823 --> 00:10:35,409 so like, don't log into your actual Gmail account, or go to your Facebook or things like that. 128 00:10:35,409 --> 00:10:36,375 But yeah. 129 00:10:36,871 --> 00:10:37,929 So yeah, those are the two things I would do. 130 00:10:38,323 --> 00:10:39,056 OK. 131 00:10:39,903 --> 00:10:41,304 So there's no, it's not.. 132 00:10:44,619 --> 00:10:46,282 This is an old Mac. 133 00:10:46,599 --> 00:10:51,537 Yes. This is the part of the study that we were trying to... I think, before the study 134 00:10:51,537 --> 00:10:54,043 I asked, "did you change anything?" to which he said "no". 135 00:10:54,043 --> 00:10:57,946 We were trying to figure out what to do with all of our time while it was downloading. 136 00:11:02,196 --> 00:11:07,178 But, after this, it shouldn't take that long to do the other things. 137 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:12,158 All right, so, it's downloaded, so I'm going to click on it. 138 00:11:13,456 --> 00:11:20,354 On that small little thing, at the bottom of the Chrome page. 139 00:11:21,666 --> 00:11:24,404 And here it says that there's a sign, 140 00:11:24,967 --> 00:11:28,049 seems to be saying that it's in my applications now. 141 00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:32,111 So I'm going to, I'm trying to click on it, just to figure out what's going on. 142 00:11:32,616 --> 00:11:39,200 Oh. I can click on the application file, it seems, so I'm going to do that directly 143 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,875 instead of going in the Finder, which is helpful. 144 00:11:43,427 --> 00:11:47,773 And then I'm going to look for "Tor", which starts with a "T", 145 00:11:48,186 --> 00:11:50,852 so it should be around here, 146 00:11:50,852 --> 00:11:54,208 but it seems maybe it's not the right order. 147 00:11:54,611 --> 00:11:56,461 So then I'm looking for, 148 00:11:57,335 --> 00:12:00,011 I can't see it right now. 149 00:12:00,886 --> 00:12:05,081 So, I'm going to close that, 150 00:12:05,081 --> 00:12:07,985 and go in the Finder, 151 00:12:07,985 --> 00:12:09,607 and see if I can see it in the Finder. 152 00:12:10,029 --> 00:12:12,625 Oh. No... Let's see. 153 00:12:13,797 --> 00:12:15,596 I'm clicking on Tor Browser now. 154 00:12:16,008 --> 00:12:17,225 It's opening Tor Browser. 155 00:12:18,125 --> 00:12:23,844 And it says, it can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer. 156 00:12:24,615 --> 00:12:29,062 "Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the Mac App Store." 157 00:12:29,499 --> 00:12:31,466 Well that's going to be a problem. 158 00:12:33,219 --> 00:12:36,518 So, so I don't really know what to do. 159 00:12:43,628 --> 00:12:47,664 Let's see, in the Finder, I want to see if it's in the Finder. 160 00:12:48,370 --> 00:12:54,238 I want to see where it is. I have, I think I have installed things before, 161 00:12:54,831 --> 00:13:02,756 software, but it's been, I always have difficulty with that part, I guess. 162 00:13:06,779 --> 00:13:10,404 So I'm clicking on everything that it's showing me. 163 00:13:11,837 --> 00:13:16,797 And also I've downloaded two, so I'm going to try opening the other one. 164 00:13:17,870 --> 00:13:25,984 It's showing me the same page with that little purple and green icon and application thing. 165 00:13:27,719 --> 00:13:30,360 So I'm trying to open it again. 166 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,469 I'm guessing it's going to be the same problem, but... Yeah. 167 00:13:33,865 --> 00:13:40,802 So, it says, I'm reading what it says, it says "Google Chrome downloaded this disk image today." 168 00:13:41,316 --> 00:13:48,197 OK. So I'm going to go back to the Chrome page to see if there's any indication on what I should do. 169 00:13:50,615 --> 00:14:01,197 "Use the Tor Browser", "Don't torrent over...", "Don't" I don't know, I'm trying to see on that page how to do this. 170 00:14:09,886 --> 00:14:16,466 So I have to go to my security preferences and change them to allow for things that are not from the Mac App Store. 171 00:14:17,114 --> 00:14:20,179 I think, because that's what it says in the little box. 172 00:14:20,817 --> 00:14:24,808 So I have to go to my security preferences. So usually, to go to my... 173 00:14:25,339 --> 00:14:29,522 Oh, here I see the icon of System Preferences so I'm going to go and open that, 174 00:14:29,962 --> 00:14:39,649 but usually I see that little icon for search on the screen of the Mac, 175 00:14:40,727 --> 00:14:48,452 so usually I would type in what I'm looking for directly. "Security Preferences" instead of, I don't have that icon on my computer. 176 00:14:49,533 --> 00:14:50,590 So that's what I would do. 177 00:14:51,255 --> 00:14:55,734 But here, it's right here, so I open it, and I'm looking for "Security & Privacy", 178 00:14:56,796 --> 00:14:58,317 and I open that, 179 00:14:59,389 --> 00:15:04,860 and "Allow apps downloaded from"... 180 00:15:05,184 --> 00:15:08,875 OK, and here it says something about Tor Browser so I'm going to do "Open Anyway", 181 00:15:12,004 --> 00:15:14,720 because it seems, that that works. 182 00:15:15,567 --> 00:15:19,918 Oh. And now the icon is going to open. 183 00:15:22,484 --> 00:15:30,354 It says it's downloaded from the Internet, so it says that a bunch of times, like, usually, I'm used to seeing that, and just say "OK". 184 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:33,399 Me too. [Laughter.] 185 00:15:35,638 --> 00:15:40,398 OK, "A copy of Firefox is already open. Only one copy can be open at a time." 186 00:15:41,066 --> 00:15:51,288 So, it shouldn't be open, because it seems like here that it's supposed to be closed. But let's say "Quit" and try that again, maybe. 187 00:16:13,264 --> 00:16:18,509 So it's saying, "A copy of Firefox is already open. Only one copy can be open at a time." 188 00:16:19,381 --> 00:16:25,320 So, Firefox, there's nothing open there, but maybe, I don't know what I can do. 189 00:16:26,059 --> 00:16:30,235 I'm thinking I should have to delete that one Firefox, but I don't think I can do that. 190 00:16:39,870 --> 00:16:46,613 I'm doing Control and click to see, on Firefox to see, what I can do. 191 00:16:53,019 --> 00:16:56,662 I can move it to the trash, or I can burn it to disc, 192 00:16:57,230 --> 00:16:58,440 I don't know what that means. 193 00:17:00,807 --> 00:17:01,889 I don't know if that's going to work. 194 00:17:02,332 --> 00:17:05,314 Maybe it's just because there's two here open. Two Tor Browsers open. 195 00:17:06,377 --> 00:17:08,931 Maybe only one should be open. 196 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,527 So maybe I should delete one of the two. 197 00:17:14,882 --> 00:17:16,507 I don't know. 198 00:17:16,942 --> 00:17:23,037 Here there are two. There's "Tor Browser", and "Tor Browser 1", as if I had downloaded two of them, which is odd. 199 00:17:23,795 --> 00:17:26,742 So I'm going to just try to open one, see if that makes a difference. 200 00:17:28,295 --> 00:17:30,438 I ejected the second one. 201 00:17:34,612 --> 00:17:38,994 I don't really know what that means. It looks like it's, like you have a USB key 202 00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:43,007 when you're downloading new software before you install it 203 00:17:43,490 --> 00:17:48,776 and I never really understood what that means, how that works. 204 00:17:49,210 --> 00:17:56,634 Usually, I download things and then I forget to open them and install them, so OK. So it's asking me that again. 205 00:17:58,111 --> 00:18:01,123 This is why we need to do the study. It's actually pretty hard and horrible. 206 00:18:04,192 --> 00:18:04,715 OK. 207 00:18:05,348 --> 00:18:07,195 I actually had trouble with it too. 208 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:10,154 I don't know. I'm going to try to do something on... 209 00:18:11,089 --> 00:18:17,713 I think, technically, like after two more minutes, if you don't still get it, then I should just help you or something. 210 00:18:21,027 --> 00:18:21,614 OK. 211 00:18:23,521 --> 00:18:27,951 Yeah. Do you want to try any other things, or are you pretty much done? 212 00:18:29,252 --> 00:18:31,142 No, please, tell me what should I do. 213 00:18:31,910 --> 00:18:43,218 OK. I think, in case that this happens, we actually have a version of Tor installed already. 214 00:18:48,384 --> 00:18:50,675 So, 215 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:51,700 OK. 216 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:57,357 Yeah, it's in a hidden file that you can't really get to unless you knew where it was. But, sure, OK. 217 00:18:59,713 --> 00:19:03,288 That was legitimately horrible. But that's why we're doing this study. 218 00:19:04,048 --> 00:19:07,809 I couldn't download it either. And if it was easy to download, we wouldn't be doing this study. 219 00:19:08,638 --> 00:19:12,672 So don't feel bad. It's supposed to be hard and there are people trying to fix it right now. 220 00:19:13,785 --> 00:19:18,031 And if you have any questions about it, I can tell you after the study why certain things happen. 221 00:19:18,718 --> 00:19:20,526 Because there's a reason why certain things happen. 222 00:19:20,834 --> 00:19:27,089 So you downloaded Tor, and you already installed it, and since this is this copy, you've already configured it. 223 00:19:27,967 --> 00:19:32,700 And if you wanted me to tell you, the reason why it says that it's not signed by an app developer, 224 00:19:33,419 --> 00:19:39,356 is just because the Tor browsing company, they refuse to be affiliated with the Mac store, 225 00:19:39,924 --> 00:19:45,057 because they need to provide all their code, and they need to let people know how they work, 226 00:19:45,674 --> 00:19:48,096 what people are working on, and they need to follow... 227 00:19:48,634 --> 00:19:51,874 You know how Apple looks nice, and everything needs to look the same? 228 00:19:51,874 --> 00:19:55,472 They just don't necessarily want to be under that. But if you don't do that, 229 00:19:56,371 --> 00:20:01,702 obviously if you download bad things from the Internet, you can get bad things with viruses inside, 230 00:20:02,558 --> 00:20:04,676 or bad guys who are trying to give you Candy Crush, 231 00:20:05,064 --> 00:20:09,521 but it's Candy Crush plus I'm going to just make your phone do bad things for you. 232 00:20:09,924 --> 00:20:14,188 So that's why it says, you should download from the App Store because it's safe, but they're not in the App Store 233 00:20:14,795 --> 00:20:18,732 because it makes things difficult for them and even slower, but it causes all of these issues 234 00:20:19,173 --> 00:20:22,398 like, you can't open it right away, and all this kind of stuff. 235 00:20:22,398 --> 00:20:24,056 So we're actually trying to look into it. 236 00:20:24,595 --> 00:20:26,873 So that's why that happens. 237 00:20:26,873 --> 00:20:31,988 So I want you to start at number 4, the rest of this should be pretty easy, 238 00:20:31,988 --> 00:20:34,711 and, anytime you want to start, that's when you can start. 239 00:20:35,724 --> 00:20:39,332 OK, number 4 is "Check that Tor is working". 240 00:20:40,031 --> 00:20:47,295 So if it's a browser, I guess it works like Chrome or any other browser. 241 00:20:48,215 --> 00:20:52,082 So I'm already in this, clicked in the search thing, 242 00:20:52,692 --> 00:20:55,825 so I should just type anything. 243 00:20:57,036 --> 00:21:02,080 I'm going to type "france" because it's a word that's in my head right now, 244 00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:05,957 and wait and see if it works. 245 00:21:06,537 --> 00:21:11,791 So, yeah, so here I have a bunch of results for "france". 246 00:21:12,165 --> 00:21:14,038 "The official web site of France". OK. 247 00:21:15,055 --> 00:21:18,376 And Wikipedia entry, factbook, and... 248 00:21:18,779 --> 00:21:22,556 So it seems to be working, it's a little slow, maybe the connection's not great, but it's working. 249 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:27,000 "Do a web search..." 250 00:21:25,792 --> 00:21:30,474 Do you like using this thing? Or, you said you used it because you were clicked into it, right? 251 00:21:32,662 --> 00:21:35,094 What do you mean? This one? Oh, yeah, I guess I could do this. 252 00:21:35,931 --> 00:21:36,957 No, I mean, I was just wondering. 253 00:21:37,414 --> 00:21:39,160 I saw that I was already inside the... 254 00:21:39,833 --> 00:21:40,666 OK. 255 00:21:41,148 --> 00:21:43,236 "Do a web search for 'onions'." 256 00:21:44,221 --> 00:21:48,625 So maybe this time I'll do it here, in the thing. 257 00:21:49,107 --> 00:21:50,397 I don't know how it's called. 258 00:21:50,922 --> 00:21:53,549 But I type in "onions" in that little... 259 00:21:54,951 --> 00:22:01,103 OK, and uh... OK, it's not working. 260 00:22:02,463 --> 00:22:04,711 So I'm going to try this, maybe it makes a difference, 261 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:09,041 as typing it in the search, like I did with "france". 262 00:22:10,234 --> 00:22:12,026 And this time it works. 263 00:22:12,406 --> 00:22:20,695 So I guess that's the difference between Chrome and Tor, which is that when you type it here, 264 00:22:20,695 --> 00:22:24,635 inside the page, it works, but if you type it here, it doesn't, outside. 265 00:22:25,564 --> 00:22:29,086 It's actually Google's thing if you just type in the address bar they Google search it for you, 266 00:22:29,537 --> 00:22:34,695 and since they're not Google, they can't do that, without stealing them. So, yeah, it's not nice. 267 00:22:35,963 --> 00:22:39,494 So, I'm doing a web search for "onions". 268 00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:44,503 I don't know why there's an "s". You know? 269 00:22:45,259 --> 00:22:48,875 Maybe it's a group, maybe it's a band. I don't think so. 270 00:22:52,431 --> 00:22:57,468 But if I was looking just for an onion, 271 00:22:57,929 --> 00:23:01,635 I'd go to the Wikipedia, I'd open the Wikipedia page, 272 00:23:02,619 --> 00:23:05,945 to see, I don't know 273 00:23:05,945 --> 00:23:12,086 what I'm looking for. The history, history of the onion. 274 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,223 I think the main idea was to like see which one you would use to search it with. 275 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,517 But you can read all the interesting facts about onions if you wish. [Laughter.] 276 00:23:19,269 --> 00:23:20,488 It's fine. 277 00:23:21,809 --> 00:23:27,673 OK. So, "Find a YouTube video for 'Ode to Joy'." 278 00:23:28,853 --> 00:23:35,101 So see, what I'm, I guess what I was looking for was what I found just now, which is "Web", "Images", and "Videos". 279 00:23:35,886 --> 00:23:42,373 In Google, it's underneath the search thing, So I can click on that, or it's right up... 280 00:23:42,373 --> 00:23:44,028 But here it's different. 281 00:23:44,028 --> 00:23:50,174 But anyway, now that I know that, I can just type in the search thing, "Ode to Joy". 282 00:23:51,678 --> 00:23:55,270 So I said, I clicked return, just because I'm used to doing that. 283 00:23:56,088 --> 00:24:01,750 I used to, I usually type in the thing I'm looking for before I change to images or videos. 284 00:24:02,855 --> 00:24:06,737 So now, because we're looking for a video I'm going to type in "video", 285 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,720 and I'm looking for a YouTube video, so that would be maybe 286 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:18,686 number 4, because they're all, "Viral", "DailyMotion", so here it's... 287 00:24:19,744 --> 00:24:21,926 "Xbox gameplay". 288 00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:24,656 And then, I don't know. 289 00:24:25,051 --> 00:24:31,580 I'll just tap on one of them, and then once I'm inside YouTube maybe I can find a better version. 290 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,048 So it's opening into a new page which is weird, I guess, 291 00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:39,772 I'm not used to that. 292 00:24:40,144 --> 00:24:42,910 And it says it needs a plugin, so that's not great. 293 00:24:43,726 --> 00:24:50,422 So I can't see the video. So maybe if I go to YouTube, because here I'm on "Blink", I don't know why. 294 00:24:50,815 --> 00:24:52,073 Weird. 295 00:24:52,738 --> 00:24:59,203 Yeah. So I'm just going to type in "youtube.com" in the little thing, 296 00:25:02,313 --> 00:25:07,566 and that should work better. And then type in "Ode to Joy". 297 00:25:08,815 --> 00:25:10,390 Return. 298 00:25:11,192 --> 00:25:15,240 YouTube. So there's a flash mob. 299 00:25:15,722 --> 00:25:20,041 And then, I would go with number 3, just because the picture looks better. 300 00:25:21,234 --> 00:25:27,903 Oh, there's a bunch of ads, but, yeah, I would just click on that. 301 00:25:27,903 --> 00:25:31,496 And then check that my sound is on, 302 00:25:33,432 --> 00:25:36,835 and listen to the Ode to Joy. 303 00:25:38,650 --> 00:25:43,741 OK. That's weird. I'm sure it works. 304 00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:48,395 Yeah, so it's kind of super slow though. 305 00:25:48,894 --> 00:25:49,648 Yeah. 306 00:25:57,401 --> 00:26:04,798 See the YouTube screen is also kind of, you know, turning black like that. Bugging a little. 307 00:26:05,470 --> 00:26:08,185 OK. So, can I go to number 7? 308 00:26:08,595 --> 00:26:09,326 Yeah. 309 00:26:09,807 --> 00:26:14,717 "Use 'New Identity' under the onion menu." 310 00:26:16,805 --> 00:26:21,288 So I'm guessing it's something of the Tor Browser. 311 00:26:23,288 --> 00:26:27,176 So, "under the onion menu", OK no, it's about the onion. 312 00:26:28,496 --> 00:26:31,891 Oh no, I don't think so, I think it's about Tor, because Tor looks like an onion. 313 00:26:32,538 --> 00:26:39,142 OK, OK so the onion menu, maybe that's the Tor Browser menu, is what they mean. 314 00:26:39,811 --> 00:26:41,277 I don't know. 315 00:26:41,895 --> 00:26:45,346 And there should be something called "New Identity". 316 00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:58,729 So, I'm looking at the browser, like the page that's open, just in case I can see like, if it's obviously there. But... 317 00:26:59,068 --> 00:27:01,288 Oh! Here there's a little onion, maybe that's it. 318 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:03,317 "New Identity". Yay! 319 00:27:03,698 --> 00:27:07,269 So yeah, there was an onion. Small green onion. 320 00:27:08,068 --> 00:27:11,288 And yeah, I guess, it's new identity. 321 00:27:11,778 --> 00:27:17,726 So I'm guessing it's the same thing as with Google, when you open a page and you don't want the history to show up or something. 322 00:27:18,808 --> 00:27:23,407 And then you can, it's like you're disconnected from your Gmail account and everything, 323 00:27:24,018 --> 00:27:25,935 you can type that as a different user. 324 00:27:26,931 --> 00:27:31,416 "Explain your best understanding of all the items in the toolbar." 325 00:27:31,890 --> 00:27:36,991 And by "the toolbar", we mean this. Not all of this. That would be atrocious. Just... 326 00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:38,250 This. 327 00:27:38,811 --> 00:27:47,797 Yeah. And you can say as much or as little as you want to. Like "I would never use this" or just like "I don't care" or like "What do you do there", something like that. 328 00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:57,787 So, I tried before to type in in that small, in that search engine directly what I'm looking for, which is what Google does, but here it doesn't work, so I guess 329 00:27:58,903 --> 00:28:04,651 unless I type in a direct web site, I would only use it for that. 330 00:28:05,846 --> 00:28:10,820 And then I'm guessing that this Startpage is kind of the same thing as what's inside the page, 331 00:28:11,422 --> 00:28:14,299 which is, you type in what you're looking for. 332 00:28:15,461 --> 00:28:17,548 Would I use it? I guess so. 333 00:28:18,358 --> 00:28:24,546 I don't know, maybe I'd rather use the big one because it's bigger, so it's easier to click on it. 334 00:28:25,718 --> 00:28:28,730 But I don't even know if that's what it does. I'd have to check. 335 00:28:29,334 --> 00:28:32,402 And type in "onion" and see if that's what I'm getting. 336 00:28:35,230 --> 00:28:36,453 Yeah. So yeah. 337 00:28:36,453 --> 00:28:38,875 I think I would use the big one, just because this is small. 338 00:28:39,287 --> 00:28:46,260 I think, same thing happened to me with Safari, is that, I find it really small, all the icons and everything 339 00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:49,315 so that it's harder to click on or navigate. 340 00:28:50,101 --> 00:28:53,124 Then there's a little plus here to open a new file. 341 00:28:53,682 --> 00:29:00,872 I tend to use Command-T for new tab instead of the little plus. 342 00:29:00,872 --> 00:29:09,711 Same reason, just because, it's less, you need to be less precise to just type Command-T 343 00:29:09,711 --> 00:29:15,598 rather than look with your mouse for the small plus. 344 00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:19,021 Then there's that onion. 345 00:29:19,417 --> 00:29:22,517 So yeah, none of those two things on the left I would take a look at. 346 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,400 OK. That's fair. 347 00:29:25,712 --> 00:29:27,990 I'm also a little confused as to... 348 00:29:28,361 --> 00:29:33,878 I guess "Sp" means "Startpage" but I don't know if I'm on Tor Browser, 349 00:29:35,446 --> 00:29:37,900 or what is Startpage, I don't know what that is, 350 00:29:38,742 --> 00:29:42,265 I guess it's, I don't really know. But yeah. 351 00:29:43,002 --> 00:29:48,592 So if I take a look at the onion, I guess it's about preferences and network settings, 352 00:29:49,615 --> 00:29:51,526 "New Identity". So that's cool. 353 00:29:55,025 --> 00:30:00,141 I think if it's in the toolbar up above, it's good enough. 354 00:30:01,094 --> 00:30:03,108 But, I don't know. 355 00:30:03,942 --> 00:30:09,053 And this is about... "Forbid scripts globally". "Permanent 'Allow' commands". 356 00:30:10,090 --> 00:30:11,873 So I don't know what that means. 357 00:30:13,394 --> 00:30:18,056 But I guess may it could be an ad block or something like that. If I'm guessing. 358 00:30:20,558 --> 00:30:21,416 All right. Do you have anything else to say? 359 00:30:24,339 --> 00:30:25,523 Um... 360 00:30:26,006 --> 00:30:30,814 Oh no, this isn't like a trick question. Like, I'm supposed to let you talk as much as you want to talk and not cut you off, 361 00:30:31,452 --> 00:30:34,336 but I don't necessarily want to you like talk more if you're done talking. 362 00:30:37,842 --> 00:30:44,311 Just, I guess, generally, because when you're used to one specific browser, it's kind of hard to switch. 363 00:30:45,470 --> 00:30:51,930 Also, I feel like I've seen just like Startpage, other things, pages like this, 364 00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:54,200 where it's blue here, 365 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:59,798 and then it's just a list of things. It's kind of small, 366 00:30:59,798 --> 00:31:03,819 it's not really easy. Kind of like Craigslist or Yahoo.com. 367 00:31:04,451 --> 00:31:05,819 Yeah, Craigslist, it looks so bad. 368 00:31:06,396 --> 00:31:09,673 It's kind of, it's kind of hard to navigate when it's small. 369 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:12,101 All right.